Comments on: The Visionary vs. the Randomizer http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer Tips, tricks, technology reviews, previews and musings on the current state of affairs in music and audio software for personal computers. Thu, 17 May 2012 15:18:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: jp http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-54937 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:50:48 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-54937 I must have missed this while I was out of town attending a "All music is now Free, get used to it" seminar, but..The Future of Music Coalition is a good organization. I am a charter member. I joined because they were the only people addressing an issue that is near and dear to me..how do musicians make money now that etc etc..but they also helped wake up Russ Feingold to the fact that Clear Channel, under the "watchdog" of the Powell led FCC, was going to pull a robber baron move..and have also been trying to get health insurance for those of us who are foolish enough to not have day gigs at Price Waterhouse and/or the US Congress. I know the gist of what you are saying Victor, and YO do I agrees with it, but the FMC is legit. Today in Music Think Tank, ol' Ariel H had another of her numerous rebuttals (using one of her own clients! the clever gal) re the article about why the 1K fan bit is nonsense. A quick read between the lines of the "interviewee" unmasks a few innerstin' tidbits..like when she waffles around the question of "so how much money did you make last year?".. Happy New Year Boss..if you are ever in the fly over zone, me and Kaer will take you out to the Comfort Zone Bar b que for some alligator gumbo...it's not Kanter's, but you know..that's a GOOD thing. I must have missed this while I was out of town attending a “All music is now Free, get used to it” seminar, but..The Future of Music Coalition is a good organization. I am a charter member. I joined because they were the only people addressing an issue that is near and dear to me..how do musicians make money now that etc etc..but they also helped wake up Russ Feingold to the fact that Clear Channel, under the “watchdog” of the Powell led FCC, was going to pull a robber baron move..and have also been trying to get health insurance for those of us who are foolish enough to not have day gigs at Price Waterhouse and/or the US Congress.

I know the gist of what you are saying Victor, and YO do I agrees with it, but the FMC is legit.

Today in Music Think Tank, ol’ Ariel H had another of her numerous rebuttals (using one of her own clients! the clever gal) re the article about why the 1K fan bit is nonsense. A quick read between the lines of the “interviewee” unmasks a few innerstin’ tidbits..like when she waffles around the question of “so how much money did you make last year?”..

Happy New Year Boss..if you are ever in the fly over zone, me and Kaer will take you out to the Comfort Zone Bar b que for some alligator gumbo…it’s not Kanter’s, but you know..that’s a GOOD thing.

]]> Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: fourstones http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-53727 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:32:03 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-53727 scott andrew has a very good name for that: http://www.scottandrew.com/wordpress/archives/2005/01/on_music_business_po.html scott andrew has a very good name for that:

http://www.scottandrew.com/wordpress/archives/2005/01/on_music_business_po.html

]]> Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: spinmeister http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-53726 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:23:03 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-53726 side observation: there may not be any money in the recorded music business for "normal" music makers -- but there seems to be money in the dream merchant industry (conferences, "how to make it" books). That's an interesting niche industry, that exists for all kinds of arts/crafts/hobbies that people do for fun, but have dreams of making money with. side observation: there may not be any money in the recorded music business for “normal” music makers — but there seems to be money in the dream merchant industry (conferences, “how to make it” books). That’s an interesting niche industry, that exists for all kinds of arts/crafts/hobbies that people do for fun, but have dreams of making money with.

]]> Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: gurdonark http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52934 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:52:21 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52934 There's an old Dream Syndicate song I like, with the line: "I thought I knew the answer/but no question was posed". The shifting in the music industry makes clear to me that nobody is quite sure what the question will be nowadays, either. I suspect that there is not one answer, and not just one question, but a lot of different questions and answers about the new technology. I am more interested in the question "how can the new music technology build communities outside the traditional record industry model" than the question "how can people make money from music?". But it's okay if someone else tries to solve that second question. I'm just not sure the second question is nearly as much fun as the first question. Music was a patron's game before it was a corporate recording game. Who knows what game it will become? There’s an old Dream Syndicate song I like, with the line:
“I thought I knew the answer/but no question was posed”.

The shifting in the music industry makes clear to me that nobody is quite sure what the question will be nowadays, either.

I suspect that there is not one answer, and not just one question, but a lot of different questions and answers about the new technology.

I am more interested in the question “how can the new music technology build communities outside the traditional record industry model” than the question “how can people make money from music?”. But it’s okay if someone else tries to solve that second question.

I’m just not sure the second question is nearly as much fun as the first question.

Music was a patron’s game before it was a corporate recording game. Who knows what game it will become?

]]> Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: fourstones http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52931 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:09:08 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52931 >but I think the author was >suggesting that it’s bad to focus >all of your attention on >connecting with and making the >superfans happy I'm sure he was - and the only people even thinking about doing that are the pundits at pointless conferences about how to "save the industry" >but I think the author was
>suggesting that it’s bad to focus
>all of your attention on
>connecting with and making the
>superfans happy

I’m sure he was - and the only people even thinking about doing that are the pundits at pointless conferences about how to “save the industry”

]]> Comment on The Visionary vs. the Randomizer by: HeuristicsInc http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52930 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:37:02 +0000 http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/the-visionary-vs-the-randomizer#comment-52930 Well, sure... but I think the author was suggesting that it's bad to focus all of your attention on connecting with and making the superfans happy. I think there's probably a middle ground to be had where the casual fan isn't left out. I resonated very strongly with his assertion that he isn't interested in focusing on any one artist to the detriment of listening to others. I really enjoy Einstuerzende Neubauten, but I never signed up for their exclusive club because I like lots of other artists too... I guess I'm a casual fan by necessity. Anyway, I thought he made very good points. And I can certainly see that, if an artist is focusing on only this small group of people, and constantly getting tight feedback from only that group, that their creativity could be affected... -bill Well, sure… but I think the author was suggesting that it’s bad to focus all of your attention on connecting with and making the superfans happy. I think there’s probably a middle ground to be had where the casual fan isn’t left out. I resonated very strongly with his assertion that he isn’t interested in focusing on any one artist to the detriment of listening to others. I really enjoy Einstuerzende Neubauten, but I never signed up for their exclusive club because I like lots of other artists too… I guess I’m a casual fan by necessity. Anyway, I thought he made very good points. And I can certainly see that, if an artist is focusing on only this small group of people, and constantly getting tight feedback from only that group, that their creativity could be affected…
-bill

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