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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: ken</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-353</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sorry, screwed up that link
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>sorry, screwed up that link<br />
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: Ken</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-352</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-352</guid>
					<description>So a few months ago, I posted a little message here to you telling you how exactly google is going to own the world, remember? 
It begins here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So a few months ago, I posted a little message here to you telling you how exactly google is going to own the world, remember?<br />
It begins here
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: victor</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-350</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-350</guid>
					<description>Hey Jason, loved your doc (!) bought mine early and recommended it to as many folks as I could think of.

Meanwhile, please point out the part of Evan's post I did NOT respond to (or laid down on, or whatever) and I'll be happy to oblige with a response. 

HOWEVER I will not take part in a cred-fest-pee ing match other than to point out that Evan's claim that he speaks for &quot;everyone [at] CC [and] anyone interested&quot; is, to put it as discretely as possible, just wrong -- and er, a wrong blanket statement at that.

This is the third time I'm saying this: I KNOW people don't agree with my opinions, I LINKED to those opposing opinions in the piece. 

I would venture to say Evan is po'd because, gasp, I don't agree with him, not the other way around. 

My content filter is the default thingy (+MTBlacklist) in MoveableType from a billion years ago when I installed it and never looked back. Sorry if that offends you, there is only so much energy I can put into fighting off the 1000s of cas ino/blue-pills ads this site gets bombarded with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Jason, loved your doc (!) bought mine early and recommended it to as many folks as I could think of.</p>
	<p>Meanwhile, please point out the part of Evan&#8217;s post I did NOT respond to (or laid down on, or whatever) and I&#8217;ll be happy to oblige with a response. </p>
	<p>HOWEVER I will not take part in a cred-fest-pee ing match other than to point out that Evan&#8217;s claim that he speaks for &#8220;everyone [at] CC [and] anyone interested&#8221; is, to put it as discretely as possible, just wrong &#8212; and er, a wrong blanket statement at that.</p>
	<p>This is the third time I&#8217;m saying this: I KNOW people don&#8217;t agree with my opinions, I LINKED to those opposing opinions in the piece. </p>
	<p>I would venture to say Evan is po&#8217;d because, gasp, I don&#8217;t agree with him, not the other way around. </p>
	<p>My content filter is the default thingy (+MTBlacklist) in MoveableType from a billion years ago when I installed it and never looked back. Sorry if that offends you, there is only so much energy I can put into fighting off the 1000s of cas ino/blue-pills ads this site gets bombarded with.
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: Jason Scott</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-349</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-349</guid>
					<description>Excellent work there, Victor. The minute anyone responds to you in a way that questions what you wrote, your immediate response is to play dead and go &quot;IT'S JUST A BLOG, MAN&quot; until, hopefully, the evil questioning-your-statements man goes away.

Going &quot;this is to me, for me&quot; implies, basically, nobody should read your work, since they're not you. For shame.

For my own part, I licensed the BBS Doc Attribute-Sharealike 2.0. Huzzah!

P.S. I can't call it my BBS doc ume ntary because your content filter blocks it. Way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Excellent work there, Victor. The minute anyone responds to you in a way that questions what you wrote, your immediate response is to play dead and go &#8220;IT&#8217;S JUST A BLOG, MAN&#8221; until, hopefully, the evil questioning-your-statements man goes away.</p>
	<p>Going &#8220;this is to me, for me&#8221; implies, basically, nobody should read your work, since they&#8217;re not you. For shame.</p>
	<p>For my own part, I licensed the BBS Doc Attribute-Sharealike 2.0. Huzzah!</p>
	<p>P.S. I can&#8217;t call it my BBS doc ume ntary because your content filter blocks it. Way to go.
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: victor</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-348</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-348</guid>
					<description>What's so impressive about choices I make about how I interpret the licenses as applied to my music?

The title of this piece is 'to me', as in: me, not Evan.

I start the piece by explicitly stating that I do NOT speak for anyone at CC.

I point to a video of John Buckman where he expresses very clearly he thinks church bake sales and school projects are very troublesome cases for Magnatune -- and CC in general. I've heard him say that &quot;there is no such as non-commercial&quot; -- I think in the video he says &quot;non-commercial means no audience&quot; which in essence is the same thing.

If the new license do not express 'money in exchange for music' then yes, I will rethink my opinions.

I guess what's impressive to me is that you would ignore all this and assume my opinions on my web site regarding my music is the definitive word for all music under all NC licenses. I had no idea my words had so much power. Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What&#8217;s so impressive about choices I make about how I interpret the licenses as applied to my music?</p>
	<p>The title of this piece is &#8216;to me&#8217;, as in: me, not Evan.</p>
	<p>I start the piece by explicitly stating that I do NOT speak for anyone at CC.</p>
	<p>I point to a video of John Buckman where he expresses very clearly he thinks church bake sales and school projects are very troublesome cases for Magnatune &#8212; and CC in general. I&#8217;ve heard him say that &#8220;there is no such as non-commercial&#8221; &#8212; I think in the video he says &#8220;non-commercial means no audience&#8221; which in essence is the same thing.</p>
	<p>If the new license do not express &#8216;money in exchange for music&#8217; then yes, I will rethink my opinions.</p>
	<p>I guess what&#8217;s impressive to me is that you would ignore all this and assume my opinions on my web site regarding my music is the definitive word for all music under all NC licenses. I had no idea my words had so much power. Cool.
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: Evan Prodromou</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-347</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's impressive that you're so definite about NonCommercial despite the fact that neither Creative Commons nor anyone interested seems to share your opinion in the slightest. Perhaps, before giving legal advice, you should check the actual text of the license and make sure you understand it.

Also, 'It means &quot;money in exchange for music&quot; and new license verbiage is going to make that explicit.' Where did that tidbit come from? I'm pretty active with CC, and I've never heard it. Is that information public?

Finally, you may be interested in this page on the CC Wiki: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases&quot;&gt;http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases&lt;/a&gt;
There are a lot of edge cases to NonCommercial that you should think about before making blanket statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s impressive that you&#8217;re so definite about NonCommercial despite the fact that neither Creative Commons nor anyone interested seems to share your opinion in the slightest. Perhaps, before giving legal advice, you should check the actual text of the license and make sure you understand it.</p>
	<p>Also, &#8216;It means &#8220;money in exchange for music&#8221; and new license verbiage is going to make that explicit.&#8217; Where did that tidbit come from? I&#8217;m pretty active with CC, and I&#8217;ve never heard it. Is that information public?</p>
	<p>Finally, you may be interested in this page on the CC Wiki: <a href="http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases"><a href='http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases' rel='nofollow'>http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases</a></a><br />
There are a lot of edge cases to NonCommercial that you should think about before making blanket statements.
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: victor</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-346</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>cool, I know both you guys have thought a lot about this -- it's kind of funny how simple the solution can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>cool, I know both you guys have thought a lot about this &#8212; it&#8217;s kind of funny how simple the solution can be.
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: Marco Raaphorst</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-345</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-345</guid>
					<description>Hi Victor,

Great writing! Some interesting thoughts, I will think about these. 

Thanks you!

/Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Victor,</p>
	<p>Great writing! Some interesting thoughts, I will think about these. </p>
	<p>Thanks you!</p>
	<p>/Marco
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 		<title>Comment on What Licenses Make Sense (To Me) by: Teemu Johannes Mikkonen</title>
		<link>http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/what-licenses-make-sense-to-me#comment-344</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I was planning multiple licenses to my works, (both by-sa and by-nd) but now that I thought it over after reading your text, NonDerivs really seems an attribute I don't want to use with my music. You make me wonder if I really do want to keep even that ShareAlike there. That would even make my problems with multiple licensing simpler, I could also use only &quot;by&quot;. The problem is that I already have some stuff that can't be released under that, for using Sampling+ or NC-Sampling+ licenses.

I guess I'll still offer the sampling folks a chance to use both &quot;sampling+&quot; and &quot;by&quot; when possible.

Thank You. You made somethings somewhat clearer to me.

- TJM of Aamu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was planning multiple licenses to my works, (both by-sa and by-nd) but now that I thought it over after reading your text, NonDerivs really seems an attribute I don&#8217;t want to use with my music. You make me wonder if I really do want to keep even that ShareAlike there. That would even make my problems with multiple licensing simpler, I could also use only &#8220;by&#8221;. The problem is that I already have some stuff that can&#8217;t be released under that, for using Sampling+ or NC-Sampling+ licenses.</p>
	<p>I guess I&#8217;ll still offer the sampling folks a chance to use both &#8220;sampling+&#8221; and &#8220;by&#8221; when possible.</p>
	<p>Thank You. You made somethings somewhat clearer to me.</p>
	<p>- TJM of Aamu
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